A strange sequence of events has led to this post. This week I have slept poorly as my mind is deeply engrossed in a flooring project. The project is a heavy lift and has me so consumed that I have a hard time sleeping which isn’t very fun.
Two nights ago I got up to watch a show to take my mind off it. About 1:00 am, I was startled by my air compressor kicking on. I had forgotten to turn it off before going to bed and it’s not quiet so it briefly woke everyone up. Sorry, fam. I’ll try not to forget again. I finally did get to sleep around 2:30.
Yesterday morning, I saw an X post about Jay Leno. He did an interview about a dust up between he and Jimmy Kimmel years ago and it’s apparently getting a lot of press:
For reasons inexplicable to me, I watched this video where Leno was recounting this event with Kimmel:
Kathleen declares that Kimmel is trash and Leno is a class act. I personally have a positive association with Leno and a negative association with Kimmel. Frankly I don’t find either of them very funny but Kimmel I find to be totally unbearable because his unfunniness has a woke political element to it, a worldview I have very little patience for. By contrast, Leno seems less “woke” or whatever, just a good-natured retired Dorito’s salesman who really loves stones. Stones? Sorry, cars. Leno loves cars.
In the video above, Leno comes off as a real victim and even all these years later, here he is taking the high road and accepting responsibility for being embarrassed by Kimmel on his own show rather than directly blaming Kimmel. This beef was something I had never heard about before and even MORE inexplicably than me watching the short video above, I started searching the internet for context to figure out what the heck happened between these two unfunny people.
Seriously. I can’t tell you how odd I find it that I spent any time at all on this subject.
But anyway, it turns out the resentment centered on Leno allegedly reneging on letting Conan O’Brien take over the Tonight Show. I found this video that shows the infamous interaction between Leno and Kimmel:
I found it pretty tough to watch. Both men try to laugh it off, but Kimmel is very brazenly calling out Leno on his own show pretty much every chance he gets. And yeah, Leno just takes it and other than lamely parroting back most of what Kimmel says, he has no real comebacks, which I am pretty sure is something like a cardinal sin in comedy.
It’s kind of sad to watch and I found myself thinking that if Kimmel is full of crap, it should be easy for Leno to banter back and defend himself, especially under the mask of comedy. And so it made me think the reason Kimmel is being so bold and Leno so soft, is because what Kimmel is saying is actually true. Leno screwed over Conan and Kimmel is gonna let the whole world know about it — right to Leno’s face and on his own show! Pretty ballsy.
Leno has since framed himself as the victim in all of this, saying the network was to blame rather than himself and he is even taking the blame for Kimmel embarrassing him. “It’s my fault” he says, for not editing the exchange out of the episode. Or for not hiding his sins? What a hero! But I can’t help but think that Kimmel is telling the truth after all despite his unsavory political stance.
I started this post yesterday, by the way, but I ran out of time to finish. (flooring project and all that).
This morning I checked my blog feed and noticed “ole Bill” is back to commenting on WJT’s blog after a brief self-imposed silence. And what is ole Bill up to? Well…..he’s pretty brazenly calling out Leno on his own show, I mean WJT on his own blog, even calling him “Leno” in a way that’s not positive. Bill is pulling a Kimmel in other words.
In the real-life Leno-Kimmel drama, one thing that caught my attention was when Leno asks Kimmel what he fears most, to which Kimmel says volcanoes and tidal waves and then discloses that he has dreams about tidal waves. Tolkien tells of a similar fear and recurring tidal wave dreams. Faramir voices the same dreams in LoTR and it is apparently a reference to the Great Wave that dragged Numenor to the depths.
It reminds me of NĂşmenor, said Faramir, and wondered to hear himself speak.
Of Númenor? said Éowyn.
Yes, said Faramir, of the land of Westernesse that foundered and of the great dark wave climbing over the green lands and above the hills, and coming on, darkness unescapable. I often dream of it.
And then Kimmel takes another shot at Leno saying he also fears the network might move his show to 10:00, which was what the network had offered to try to make room for both Leno and Conan (if I’m following this drama correctly). Leno allegedly killed that idea which meant there was only room for 1 of them. Supposedly, Leno or Conan had to go in order to save the Tonight Show. Leno was willing to burn it to the ground. Conan couldn’t bear to see Johnny Carson’s show tarnished and so he agreed to go, and of course got a huge payday in the ensuing litigation.
Soon after watching the second video yesterday I snapped out of whatever spell had been cast and realized how strange it was that I was deep in that particular rabbit hole. I have zero interest in any of those people or their various shows. But then suddenly I remembered there was a lot of talk of Leno between Bill and WJT. In fact, I am surprised looking back that I didn’t have a conscious thought about that while I was doing my research, but honest to goodness, I didn’t and only remembered after I was amazed at myself for wasting time on the topic and wondered why I did it.
I searched WJT’s blog for Leno references and found several posts. In one of them, there is a discussion that Leno represents one of the Blue Wizards who was then connected with the magicians of Pharoah in the Bible. And then connected to Numenor by virtue of being associated with Pharoah (who is a potential reference to Pharazon). In one of these posts WJT even discusses the dust up between Leno and Conan that I described above.
Well, anyway, yesterday morning my wife and I were enjoying coffee on the front porch and she tells me that my air compressor woke her up from a dream. You’ll never guess what the dream was about: a huge wave. She said she dreamed our house was going to be destroyed and then she saw a huge wave demolish it.
I said “that’s odd, I just watched a video of someone saying they often dream of scary tidal waves destroying their city and it made me think of Numenor and how Tolkien had a recurring dream of such a wave. You clearly have some connection to Numenor. You must have been there when it was destroyed.”
This is one of those things I often do when it comes to “elf lore” as my family calls it. I purposely take an idea to its furthest possible meaning. Usually my family laughs or rolls their eyes but for some reason, this time she didn’t. I couldn’t resist adding her dream due to the direct hit to the Kimmel video I had just watched a few minutes before. And today Bill is bringing Numenor up again in a comment about turkeys.
All that said, there is clearly something to this Leno-Kimmel-Conan stuff. It has been a steady “sync” hit for a good while now. It looks like everyone but Leno and maybe Kathleen agree on one thing: Leno is not a great dude. As said in WJT’s dream “everyone knows” what Leno did and it wasn’t a good thing. But is it too late for Leno? That’s an open question I suppose.
WJT
At least Leno understands what he was being humiliated for. In my case, what began as annoyance at my obtuseness in understanding the syncs, and the theory that it’s because I’m “lazy,” has somehow morphed into the idea that I’m in league with the devil or something, all without my even being accused of doing any specific bad thing. It’s a weird and kind of cult-like dynamic.
LEE
I’m not following the cult comment but I can understand if you feel targeted. Just to reiterate something I said before, any of us or all of us could be in league with the devil, as you say, but without even realizing it. Meaning, it could be something we did sometime and somewhere else for which we are here to potentially repent for or double down on. IOW, regardless of what happened before we get a chance to show who we really are. I may be just as guilty as you or anyone else but this strange sync stuff does seem to point in your direction lately. Maybe it’s for a reason, to prepare you for a choice or to help you detect a false spirit. Why not just resolve that if being Leno isn’t a great thing and if you are Leno, then you don’t want to be Leno and whatever it means to not be him, you will do it? That could be a good starting point. Maybe the next step is understanding what Leno did that was so bad. And then maybe the next step is finding out how to undo it. Just thinking out loud. And I really do mean that I might be as bad or worse than Leno. In this state, it’s very hard to judge the wicked from the righteous, including ourselves.
William James Tychonievich
The “cult” reference was because I’ve read a lot of memoirs of people who spent time in cult-like groups — Carlos Castaneda’s inner circle, for example — and a recurring theme in such narratives is that someone will suddenly fall out of favor with the group for reasons that are never clearly defined and permanently be regarded as a villain from then on.
Of course it goes without saying that I don’t want to “be Leno” or whatever, and that my intention is to do good things and not bad ones. It’s hard to repent of something I didn’t even do but which is vaguely “associated with me” via syncs and never clearly defined.
WW
I knew nothing about this either, though I do remember now Leno reneging on Conan taking over the show.
We’ve looked at Leno’s name before, but I don’t think we have for Kimmel? I was curious, and found something interesting that further ties this to my going after WJT on his own blog.
The name Kimmel actually directly means “Caraway” as in the plant and spice (a play on words here for Car Away also?), but was an occupational name for a Spicer more broadly, or someone who supplies Spice. You may not remember, but in your George vs. Jones post, you referred to me as your “spicy friend” in connection with the comments I was leaving on WJT’s blog. The phrase stood out to me at the time, and here we have Kimmel’s name being all about spice.
And sorry it’s weird WJT. Life’s been pretty dang weird since about 2019 or so. Just remember that you are dealing with someone who spent some time in a psych ward because of all of this. I’m not certain, but I don’t think it is you I am actually really focused on ultimately, but rather your momma.
William James Tychonievich
Yeah, I’m well aware that people in this “field,” however we define it, aren’t going to be the sanest, most emotionally stable people in the world, and we just kind of have to roll with that.
Do kindly knock off this “Yo momma’s a whore” stuff, though. I have a real mother, and she’s not Ungoliant, who has never treated me as anything but an enemy. As she should.
WW
WJT:
Yes, exactly – just keep reminding yourself that I am insane and listen to your friends with their more positive spin on things. Do that, and I am sure you should feel just fine about everything. I’ve seen that formula work for others, like how King Noah dealt with Abinadi, for example. Actually, nevermind on that. Bad example.
As for for the momma comments, only an insane person would think I am referring to your earthly mother, who I am sure is a very nice person and I hope has a great Mother’s Day this weekend. I’m actually offended on her behalf that you brought her in as a human shield/ point of deflection. When you pray your Rosaries, I hope you know the person you are referring to as “Our Mother” is not your mom here on Earth, right? You still call her your mom, even though you have a real mother, as you say. By the way, the implication of all of this is that your rosary mother is Ungoliant, unfortunately. Only if all of this is right, though… refer back to my first paragraph in this comment if any cognitive dissonance should arise.
As for your declaration about always being treated as Ungoliant’s enemy, the lady doth protest too much, methinks. I’m not particularly convinced, but I guess we will see.
WanderingGondola
If by friends you mean me, know that I haven’t been mentally or emotionally stable for the majority of my life, and this whole “story” thing has caused considerable turmoil in me — not enough for a ward but enough to seek help, which I hadn’t needed in a few years. I say this not to be “competitive” or any bull like that, but to show you you’re not alone. Take your vitriol down a notch.
WJT
At least Abinadi accused Noah of specific crimes. Instead I get this Kafkaesque “You’re bad because the syncs say you’re bad. Now admit it!”
WJT
Are you seriously suggesting that the Rosary prayers (which never call Mary “Our Mother,” incidentally) are addressed to Ungoliant? Tolkien himself prayed the Rosary, and even translated the prayers into Elvish, so if the whole thing is demonic, the implications are pretty huge.
Or do you mean that I, uniquely, am heard by Ungolisnt when it pray to God, Mary, and Jesus — like Adam praying to God and being answered by Lucifer, or like my black ship dream?
https://narrowdesert.blogspot.com/2023/12/milkommen.html
WW
First, WG:
Your use of Vitriol is interesting, by the way.
I don’t feel any anger, resentment, bitterness, or anything when I write – I know that tone is hard to communicate in writing. And yes, not a contest, and that wasn’t why I brought it up. Maybe take your own self down the ladder of inference, or slow the process down so you can at least consider what I am writing. I sometimes infer things to quickly as well, so not trying to say just you, but it is something I am aware of. You might say that the last two years of my blogging was my own attempt to slow down a process and think some things through.
WJT:
If it makes you feel better on the cult aspect, you didn’t just suddenly fall out of favor. You started out as a bad guy when you first came by my blog almost two years ago now, as you know, but I’ve spent that time really trying to think through and understand things, and give you the benefit of the doubt. It’s been a long process, and there hasn’t been anything sudden about it. Just a lot of writings, thinking, observing, waiting, etc.
Anyway, just so we understand each other as to apparent cult-like behavior. I just don’t think that applies here, but being raised a Mormon, as you were, it’s not the first time the cult insult or comparison has been thrown my way. I just don’t think it is usually used accurately, as in this case.
You understand more of what I wrote last year than you let on as to implications for you, so please also stop repeating the nonsense that no one has charged you with a crime. You are smarter than that.
Finally, with respect to Ungoliant and your Hail Mary’s, yes, I think I am saying that. I am not sure why it has to have such massive implications for anybody or needs to be so sensationalist. As you said, in the temple allegory, Adam prayed to God, and found out mistakenly that he had actually prayed to, and been answered by, Satan, the God of this World. That alone didn’t make Adam a bad guy, obviously, but it does illustrate that we can mistakenly pray to and be involved with someone other than we thought we were.
One benefit of the Book of Mormon is that we do actually have some very direct words from Jesus himself (again, the reliability of those words is predicated on how one views the Book of Mormon and Joseph Smith, obviously). At Bountiful, Jesus went into some instruction on prayer and its importance, and again these are words which Mormon edited and prioritized for the Gentiles to have (we don’t have most of what Jesus taught, as that comes sometimes later after the Gentiles’ faith has been tried), concluding with a direct invitation from Jesus to Gentiles, so I assume they do apply to us in some way. In teaching of prayer, he commands those who listened to him that they should pray to the Father in his name. This was the specific way in which prayer was to be done.
You can say this was just general guidance and if someone wants to go pray to a mother somewhere, then this is just as good. But to me he seemed pretty specific, and as with many other instructions he gave, that if you did some other thing and in some other way, then that wasn’t of him. That is my read, at least. No instructions to pray to a mother anywhere. You can argue that there weren’t instructions not to pray to a mother, this was specifically to those at Bountiful and doesn’t apply to anyone else, or the Elves did it back in the day with Elbereth so that means others can, but you’ll have to think through those possibilities or other ones yourself and see where you land.
And with respect to Tolkien, his excuse is that Catholicism was his worldview, what he was raised in, and he never cracked open a Book of Mormon, so he would have been ignorant of Jesus’ words regarding prayer. You have read the Book of Mormon, however.
WJT
I guess I’m not as smart as you think, because I honestly have no idea of what I’m accused of besides being “lazy” and slow on the uptake and no idea which of the many things you wrote last year you have in mind. Spelling it out would be much appreciated, in email if you’d prefer not to do so here.
Point taken regarding the Rosary. I’ll give it some thought. I’m not sure Tolkien’s excuse works, since the New Testament also says to pray to the Father in Jesus’ name. It’s also odd that the prayer that was intercepted by the black ship in my dream was specifically the Lord’s Prayer, the one form of prayer unquestionably approved by both the Bible and the BoM, and my understanding in the dream was that it was intercepted precisely because it was addressed to “Pater Noster.”
LEE
I just had a thought that perhaps the reason Jesus said to pray to the Father was not bc it’s wrong to pray to Varda-Mary but that prayers to Mary are unfortunately now directed to the Black Madonna (Ungoliant) and any such devotion now runs amiss whether we wish it to or not. Yes, exactly like the black ship in the Milkommen post. Although you’re right that it was specifically the prayers directed at the Father that you observed getting absorbed.
WJT
Rereading that Milkommen post now, I see it features a W/M inversion, as in the WOW/MOM dream that started this whole Ungoliant discussion, and also the Spider World novels of Colin Wilson.
WW
I can do it here. No problem.
Straight to the point, my guess since April 2024 has been that you were Pharazon, so one specific charge, since you are looking for them to be presented, is that you broke the world.
I mentioned I don’t like feeling bad about people, so you may or may not remember that I adopted a story that Pharazon was actually a good guy and I ran with his for most of the remainder of 2024, or at least at the various times I kept picking at that thread. I couldn’t quite make it stick in the end, though, and this was one of the contributing factors to me deleting the blog entirely. That narrative fell apart. I took one more run at it earlier this year with the Shrek symbolism and my comments on your blog, but again it just didn’t seem to work in this instance. I gave it a really good try, though.
In addition to Pharazon, you were likely also one of the two Blue Wizards of the Third Age. Whereas earlier on Numenor, you helped Sauron, as a Blue Wizard you would have been in league with Saruman and his machinations just a short while later. Strange to think about Pharazon becoming a Blue Wizard, but the timing works out, and quite a lot seems to point to this.
It doesn’t stop at those two, though. Earlier, you were likely at Gondolin and aided in its betrayal, so there is another specific charge. Maeglin, in particular, was responsible for Gondolin’s fall, and he was very fond of spiders that he bred and kept around Gondolin. That is a possibility, though I am not certain. There are other candidates, and right now I just leave it off in my own mind that in some capacity you helped take down Gondolin.
Per your dream of smoking 4 cigarettes, you were likely a ‘smoker’, or assisting the devil, at least 4 different times, so my guess is there would be at least one more persona in addition to those three.
No charges against you in this life, though, that I know of. You seem like a nice guy. Though as your Italy-Turkey dream seems to support (with Italy *probably* representing this Earth, cross-referencing with my own Italy dream), Beings who currently are smokers have been enjoying pieces of a Taiwanese Turkey for awhile and are looking forward to a full Roast Turkey dinner at some point.
Anyway, sorry, I thought you at least picked up on the Pharazon nods last year, as your own symbols and the way you interpreted and wrote about them suggested this connection pretty strongly, in my view.
In writing this, I acknowledge I may be wrong about every single detail, but that is where my mind is, and you asked, so here you are.
WJT
Thanks. At least I know what you’re on about now. I think I’m very unlikely to have had any grandiose past lives, good or bad, but who the hell knows. Certainly in my present incarnation I have no sympathy with such characters.
My approach to past lives is “If ye were Abraham’s children, ye would do the works of Abraham.” That is, past lives should manifest in one’s present behavior, or they don’t mean much.
The Book of Mormon is clear that children are born clean and sinless, not guilty of whatever they may have done before birth. To believe otherwise, we are informed, is solemn mockery before God.
Again, thanks for spelling things out. It makes your recent behavior somewhat more understandable, I guess.
WW
Sure.
It is quite a rap sheet and you would have had to have been pretty busy in those past lives.
So, it is kind of strange to think of you in those terms (and I agree with the grandiose comments). Your presence and syncs were so intrusive going all the way back to 2023 that I needed to think through how to approach this. I tried on several occasions to just disengage, but that never worked well for me despite repeated attempts. Again, I may not have arrived at the right conclusion – I’ve been wrong so many times it’s not funny – but I’ve at least tried to be as thoughtful as I can be about it, which maybe isn’t saying much. Nothing is definitive in my mind at this point, just a series of best guesses.
I also agree with your sentiments on clean starts and new opportunities. If ‘smoking’ has been a symbol of something negative in dreams (which I think is the case, but who knows), the fact that you had a dream messenger holding you to a commitment not to smoke anymore after being a chain-smoker polluting the water fountain with your ash and in your Turkey dream you found yourself as a ‘young’ person who was a non-smoker could be interpreted as a positive thing in that regard. As is your feeling with respect to these various characters.
I had to go through the same thought process a few years back that even if it turned out I did some bad things, that my current self wouldn’t have wanted to do those things, they would seem repulsive, and that should count for something or be some evidence for healing.
That dream about someone being rescued by an Abelard would also bode well, I would think, given some of this imagery.